Obamacare declarată neconstituţională

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1. 1Pataphyl (Andrei R.)

   1 februarie 2011 la ora 0:59

   Orice pas înainte e un șut în fund pentru ObaMao E doar un prim pas, e drept, din foarte lungul drum de anulare a acestei legi care arvunește viitorul următoarelor generații de americani, cu bani împrumutați de la chinezi!
2. 2emil b.

   1 februarie 2011 la ora 1:59

   Acus vine Fane si zice: “Nu inteleg, ce aveti cu chinezii dupa ce ca va platesc si sanatatea”. E de-a moaca, frate! Nerecunoscatorule…
3. 3Cristina R.

   1 februarie 2011 la ora 4:02

   Liviu:
   Opinia lui Vinson aici:

   http://www.scribd.com/doc/4790.....dge-Vinson

   Si extrasele cele mai semnificative din ea, via The Volokh Conspiracy/Ilyia Somin, cel mai bun blog de analiza a jurisprudentei americane. Opinia lui Vinson pare sa satisfaca mintile extraordinare, mereu treze si discriminante ale celor care scriu pe blog:

   http://volokh.com/

   Obama si dascalimea s-au grabit sa denunte opinia lui Vinson ca fiind “ciudata”, “dincolo de termenii acceptati ai jurisprudentei” …
4. 4DanCanada

   1 februarie 2011 la ora 19:32

   Cica legea “as is right now” nu are “severability clauses” adica nu se poate salva restul daca doar o parte e considerata neconstitutionala.
   E de fapt distractiv: un Harvard Law scholar, specialist in Constitutional Law (Obambi) sa incerce sa bage pe git americanilor Health Insurance cu forta. Arata de fapt ca Obambi e un idiot si Democratii clueless (va amintiti Pelosi cu “tre’ sa o votam ca sa o citim”?)

   Nu inteleg de ce n-au Health Insurance platit de stat (sa-l notam cu GovHI)? Deci un cetatean n-are Health Insurance da? si are probleme cu sanatatea. Pai dupa ce se rezolva (spital, clinici etc), se duce la GovHI sa-i plateasca bill-urile. Bazindu-se pe SIN si bill-uri (deci lista serviciilor), GovHI aproba si plateste ce trebuie si gata, iaca ai gov. HealthCare fara sa calci pe drepturile si libertatile oamenilor cu un asemenea Frankenstein precum ObamaCare…
5. 5Cristina R.

   1 februarie 2011 la ora 20:40

   DanCanada @ 4:

   Excelent punct!
   Ideea lui Obama nu e de a da acces tuturor la ingrijire medicala, asa cum suna propaganda –ca, daca ar fi asa, cum spui tu bine, m-as duce cu orice problema la policlinica sau spital si as cere guvernului sa-mi plateasca nota de plata.

   Obamacare e, de fapt, o suprataxa pe veniturile clasei de mijloc productive pentru a plati pentru miile de programele asistentiale pe care statul nu si le mai poate permite (gen Mama si Copilul, Asistenta prenatala si post natala pentru hispanici fara cetatenie, asistenta medicala si nutritionala pentru obezi fara resurse, centre de dezintoxicare pentru drogati — lista e uriasa–

   si pentru a hrani o uriasa birocratie guvernamentala care nu are nimic de-a face cu ingrijirea medicala de baza. Unul din scopuri e de a infunda companiile de asigurari medicale care sunt fortate, in Obamacare, de a mari ratele pina cind companiile mici si mijlocii nu-si vor mai permite sa-si asigure lucratorii, fortati, in final, sa cumpere ce le da Obama.

   Obamacare e o masinarie diabolica de a devaliza/saraci America. Nimic altceva.
6. 6Cristina R.

   1 februarie 2011 la ora 21:40

   DanCanada:

   Inca ceva:

   Opinia lui Vinson e si mai curajoasa ca cea a lui Hudson din Virginia, care ataca doar partea de “mandat individual” din Obamacare (sectiunea care obliga indivizii sa cumpere asigurare de sanatate, fie ca vor sau nu–pedeapsa de a refuza fiind o amenda sau chiar pirnaia). Vinson declara toata Obamacare, in totalitate, ca neconstitutionala, si o anuleaza efectiv, in ideea ca propunerea de lege e organica, integrala, si nu poate fi segregata in parti bune si rele.
   (PS: Leftistii fac spume la gura azi. Au innebunit complet. Sunt acasa azi, si parte din placerea de a fi acasa, dincolo de a va citi pe voi si de a ma juca cu pisicuta e de a urmari, moment cu moment, derapajul mental al comunistilor).

   O experienta personala, ca sa inchei postarea:
   Am sunat la policlinica mea, acum vreo doua saptamini, ca sa-mi reinnoiesc o reteta. E o policlinica la care ma duc de multi ani, cu servicii si ingrijire de exceptie. Functionarul care mi-a raspuns m-a anuntat ca-mi va pune citeva intrebari–care, m-a asigurat, vor ramine private: De ce rasa sunt? Carui grup etnic ii apartin?
   I-am raspuns ca refuz sa raspund la asemenea intrebari. Evident ca mi-a crescut tensiunea arteriala pe care o medicamentez exact cu medicamentul pentru care sunasem!

   O colega de la slujba m-a luminat: Noul chestionar e, probabil, cerut de Obamacare, pentru o mai buna redistribuire a fondurilor catre categoriile “oprimate” (sau, in newspeak, “underserved”).

   And so it goes.
7. 7DanCanada

   1 februarie 2011 la ora 22:35

   De pe TownHall, un alt exemplu de Ann Coulter at her finest …

   Coulter Reacts to Health Care Ruling:
   “If this is Constitutional, then Republicans should turn it around and mandate that all citizens be forced to purchase a gun. And a Bible.”
8. 8Pataphyl (Andrei R.)

   3 februarie 2011 la ora 2:56

   Health Judge Uses Obama’s Words Against Him

   In ruling against President Obama‘s health care law, federal Judge Roger Vinson used Mr. Obama‘s own position from the 2008 campaign against him, when the then-Illinois senator argued there were other ways to achieve reform short of requiring every American to purchase insurance.

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   Obama‘s own position from the 2008 campaign against him, when the then-Illinois senator argued there were other ways to achieve reform short of requiring every American to purchase insurance.

   “I note that in 2008, then-Senator Obama supported a health care reform proposal that did not include an individual mandate because he was at that time strongly opposed to the idea, stating that, ‘If a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house,’” Judge Vinson wrote in a footnote toward the end of his 78-page ruling Monday.

   Judge Vinson, a federal judge in the northern district of Florida, struck down the entire health care law as unconstitutional on Monday, though he is allowing the Obama administration to continue to implement and enforce it while the government appeals his ruling.

   The footnote was attached to the most critical part of Judge Vinson‘s ruling, in which he said the “principal dispute” in the case was not whether Congress has the power to tackle health care, but rather whether it has the power to compel individual citizens to purchase insurance.

   Judge Vinson cited Mr. Obama‘s campaign words from an interview with CNN to show that there are other options that could pass constitutional muster including then-candidate Obama‘s plan.

   During the presidential campaign, one key difference between Mr. Obama and his chief opponent, then-Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, was that Mrs. Clinton‘s plan required all Americans to purchase insurance and Mr. Obama‘s did not.

   Congress eventually included the individual mandate in the bill it passed, and Mr. Obama signed that into law in March. Since then, he and his administration have defended its constitutionality, arguing the mandate is the linchpin that brings in more customers to insurance companies, which in turn allows those companies to expand the availability and lower the cost of coverage.

   Much of Judge Vinson‘s ruling was a discussion of how the Founding Fathers, including James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, saw the limits on congressional power. Judge Vinson hypothesized that, under the Obama administration‘s legal theory, the government could mandate that all citizens eat broccoli.

   White House officials said that sort of “surpassingly curious reading” called into question Judge Vinson‘s entire ruling.

   “There’s something thoroughly odd and unconventional about the analysis,” said a White House official who briefed reporters late Monday afternoon, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

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